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bread Digest Sunday, 19 May 1991
Volume 2 : Issue 12
Send submissions to "bread@onion.rain.com"
Send requests to "bread-request@onion.rain.com"
For an index of back articles that are available, send a message
containing the line "send index from bread" to "netlib@onion.rain.com"
Today's Topics:
List problems (Jeff Beadles)
Pizza Dough (Wendy Campbell)
gooey center (Jane Marcus)
Gooey hole (Bruce M. Binder)
Gooey hole problem, continued (Bruce M. Binder)
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From: jeff@onion.rain.com
Subject: List problems...
Sorry for the delays in sending the bread list out. The last two times I've
sent out a digest, it's crashed the host that I run the list from. I'm
guessing that it's the load. (There are 193 people on the list, and smail3
is throwing fits I think...)
Anyway, it should be better now. I've moved things around now, and send out
messages 20 at a time.
Also, another important note. The list email address is
'bread@onion.rain.com'. I've seen a couple of submissions to onion.pdx.com,
which is not going to work much longer. (Onion changed email addresses
several months ago)
-Jeff
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Jeff Beadles jeff@onion.rain.com
Maintainer of the bread-makers mailing list.
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From: C5CX9J%IRISHMVS.CC.ND.EDU@UICVM.uic.edu
Subject: Pizza Dough
Just recieved the following:
I pull my pizza dough recipe from the _More_with_Less_Cookbook_.
The origthe original is...
Ccombine:
1 c. warm water
1 pkg. yeast
Wwhen dissolved, add:
1 T. sugar
1.5 t. salt
2 T. vegetable oil
1.25 c. flour
Bbeat until smooth. Add:
2 c. additional flour, or enough to make stiff dough
I cut thI cut that recipe down by 1/3 (1/2 the yeast), since my machine is
for 2 c.for 2 c. flour. Actually I use a little more than 2 c. That makes
a thin ccrust for a 14" pan. Naturally, the best thing about the bread
machine machine is that it takes out all the steps. Just pour it in and let
Anyway, it go. I love that. I usually use 40/60 or 50/50 wheat/white flour.
Jeff Stehman
I also passed also passed along info to Jeff so that I am sure
he will soon be joining our group.
Thanks to Jeff, can't wait to try his recipe.
Wendy
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Wendy Campbell * * * *
c5cx9j@ic5cx9j@irishmvs.cc.nd.edu |/ |/ |/ |/
* * *
Take time to smell the |/ |/ |/
flowers. * * * *
|/ |/ |/ |/
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From: Jane Marcus <janem@hpfcls.fc.hp.com>
Subject: gooey center
I have a DAK machine and I've never had the notorious gooey center
problem. But last week I decided to try one of the corn bread
recipes from the digest. This turned out good tasting but was a
very dense and moist bread and the center did not get all the
way done. So I'm wondering if bread machines simply don't do
a good job with this type of bread. When I think about it,
when I used to make banana breads and such in my conventional oven,
I often had the problem of not knowing when it would be done and had to
bake for an hour or so, checking several times at the end with a
toothpick for doneness. So, does this theory hold up with most/all
models of bread machines out there? I haven't had any problems with
gooey center in the loaves I've made since, and I tend not to
make breads of the very dense variety.
Jane Marcus
janem@hpfcls.fc.hp.com
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From: bruceb@lccsd.sd.locus.com (Bruce M. Binder)
Subject: Gooey hole
Breadsters:
As many of you may have read, I was having problems with my Welbilt
Autobakery (the dome top or R2D2 unit.) Loaves of bread I made in
the machine were coming out with a gooey, uncooked hole in the
center. Here is a copy of the letter I sent with my machine when I
sent it to Welbilt.
--
April 16, 1991
Welbilt Appliance, Inc.
Parts and Service Department
25 Rose Place
Garden City, New York 11040
I purchased my Welbilt Autobakery on July 17, 1990 at Price Club, a
local warehouse membership store. I used it for a few months with
no problems. A few months ago, I began to notice that some of the
loaves that the Autobakery made were uncooked and gooey in the
center. In the last few months, I have been very careful to follow
the recipes and I am using recipes that worked beautifully when I
first got the machine. The machine no longer bakes the bread all
the way through. The uncooked spot in the loaves I have made
recently is larger than in previous loaves. The problem seems to
be getting worse.
I would appreciate it if you could fix this problem as I enjoyed
using the machine when it was working properly.
I would like to add that I am very disappointed that you do not
have an authorized service center in San Diego. The list that came
with my Autobakery shows three in San Diego, but none of them will
repair my machine. I hope you are doing something to correct this
situation.
Sincerely,
Bruce M. Binder
--
I received the machine back via UPS on May 3. It was packed with
an invoice which says "refurbished no charge." It looks brand new
but I am pretty sure it is the same machine; it has the same rubber
foot missing as the one I sent. Enclosed also was a new warranty
form, valid for six months, with all the same provisions as the
original warranty. The difference is the warranty is from Lesony
Sound Inc., not from Welbilt. There is also a different shipping
address for service: Lesony Sound Inc., 129-02 Northern Blvd.,
Flushing, NY, 11368.
I have made two loaves of bread in the machine since I got it
back. I made the Cinnamon Raisin recipe from the DAK recipe book.
I never had a problem with this recipe before and it came out
fine. I also made the Banana Wheat recipe. This is the recipe
that used to work fine in my machine but lately always has a gooey
center. The bread came out as gooey as ever. If anything, it may
have even been worse. The gooey part was about three inches
across, although the hole was only about a half inch across.
I will be calling Welbilt soon. I will keep you all informed as I
know more.
<bruceb>
___ __ __ ___
( ,)( \/ )( ,) Bruce M. Binder (619) 587-0511
) ,\ ) ( ) ,\ Locus Computing Corporation bruceb@locus.com
(___/(_/\/\_)(___/ San Diego, California ...!ucsd!lccsd!bruceb
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From: bruceb@lccsd.sd.locus.com (Bruce M. Binder)
Subject: Gooey hole problem, continued
Breadsters:
Earlier this week, I sent out on this mailing list a description of
my gooey hole problem and what happened with Welbilt, including the
following:
> I received the machine back via UPS on May 3. It was packed with
> an invoice which says "refurbished no charge." It looks brand new
> but I am pretty sure it is the same machine; it has the same rubber
> foot missing as the one I sent. Enclosed also was a new warranty
> form, valid for six months, with all the same provisions as the
> original warranty. The difference is the warranty is from Lesony
> Sound Inc., not from Welbilt. There is also a different shipping
> address for service: Lesony Sound Inc., 129-02 Northern Blvd.,
I was writing this from memory; I didn't have the invoice in front
of me. When I went back and checked the slip, I noticed that it
really says "exchange no charge". I just thought it said
refurbished because I was sure they had sent me back my machine.
Also, the new warranty from Lesony says "This product has been
totally remanufactured by Lesony Sound, Inc..." All this, and the
fact that the machine is still broken led me to think it is the
same machine I sent them. I still think it is.
I spoke to Welbilt today and they said they didn't do the repair
and they have no record of it. They told me they send repairs to a
service center and suggested I call them at (201) 866-1594. I
did. The name and number were not the same as Lesony Sound. The
representative I spoke with said they just took over the service
contract and they could not have handled my machine. When I
described the problem, he said it sounded like a heating problem.
He took my name and address and is sending me a "UPS caller" to
attatch to the packed up machine. UPS will pick up the package at
no charge to me.
I'll let you all know what happens. In the meantime, what happened
to the other people on this mailing list with the same problem?
Has anyone gotten their machine fixed?
<bruceb>
___ __ __ ___
( ,)( \/ )( ,) Bruce M. Binder (619) 587-0511
) ,\ ) ( ) ,\ Locus Computing Corporation bruceb@locus.com
(___/(_/\/\_)(___/ San Diego, California ...!ucsd!lccsd!bruceb
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End of bread Digest [Volume 2 Issue 12]
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